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歌曲生成与音频创作

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近 7 天的 217 条评论中,整体体验偏负面。批评最集中在「效果与质量」(21/28 条负面摘录)。好评最集中在「效果与质量」(8/12 条正面摘录)。有用户称,按提示先"Create a Sound"再用确实有效,感叹Suno的Sound功能第一次值得使用。有用户认为Suno生成的节拍过强/分散注意力,让人难以正常聆听。

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节拍真的很强/很干扰,根本没法听……

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The beats are really strong/ distracting , can't really listen..

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节拍真的很强/很干扰,根本没法听……但除此之外生成效果非常惊人。

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The beats are really strong/ distracting , can't really listen.. but generation is otherwise amazing.

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我从Suno在Discord上首发就开始用了,已经生成了10万首歌,所以我知道挑出一个成功的生成结果并不能证明这个模型不垃圾。

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I've been using Suno since it debuted on Discord and have rolled 100k songs, so I know cherry-pickin one generation that worked don't prove this model isn't shitty.

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是的我能理解你为什么这么想,我也开始有类似的看法了。我开始摆弄hooks,做了4个但似乎只有1个是活跃的,我大概有64%的lto。当我为那首看起来已经被下架的歌做了hook后,我主页的其他地方没有任何动静,hook或主歌曲也没有任何赞。所以我根本不认为Suno平台的粉丝计数器、点赞计数器或浏览量计数器有任何意义,你的音乐或短视频能否被展示纯属运气。这是我截图那一刻的情况,我没看到其他任何东西有热度,按这个速度我正在考虑取消订阅

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yer i can see why you think that and im starting to think simaler i started to mess around with hooks and i made 4 only one seem active and i have something like a 64% lto when i made the hook for the song thats looks like its taken of i see no movevmnt on the rest of my profle no likes on the hook or main song so im simply not convinsed suno platform follower counter like counter or view counter means anything and its pot luck you music or reels get shownthis is a snap shot of the moent i took it and i do not see traction on anything else and im debateing getting rid of my subcription at this rate

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v6与我尝试过的每种风格相比都比4.5有了巨大的提升,我不理解怎么会有人不这么认为。 你是做那种千篇一律的house音乐的吗? 四四拍俱乐部音乐? v6比4.5有创意太多了,根本没法比

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v6 is such a drastic improvement from 4.5 in every genre I've tried I don't understand how anyone could say otherwise. Do you make generic house music or something? 4 on the floor club music? v6 is so much more creative than 4.5 there is no comparison

负面效果与质量

是的,自定义模型,还上传我自己的音频,但variety滑块会拿我独特的提示词彻底毁掉它们,用那些陈词滥调让一切都听起来像千篇一律的Top 40背景音乐

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Yes custom model, and uploading my own audio, but the variety slider takes my unique prompts and totally destroys them with cliches that make everything sound like generic top 40 Musak

正面效果与质量

那个方法确实管用,谢谢。终于有一次声音值得使用了!

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that did work, thanks. first time sound has been worth using!

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创建一个Sound然后使用它。我就是这样终于得到了一个Cuica鼓的。还有口弦琴。

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Create a Sound then use that. That's how I got a Cuica drums finally. And I got jaw harp.

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在v6之前我一直被三味线和琵琶的问题困扰;即使到了v6,我也得把所有设置调到风格滑块的最高值,或者在工作室里制作单独的音轨

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I was having problems with shamisen and Biwa until v6; even with v6 though I gotta crank everything to the max for style slider OR make individual stems in studio

负面效果与质量

关闭variety模式并不能消除我对v6的问题。 我就是讨厌v6的声音,就是这样。

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Turning off variety mode doesn't eliminate the problems I have with v6. I just hate how v6 sounds full stop.

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而且即使关闭了variety,音频怪异问题仍然存在。

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and the audio weirdness still persist even with variety off.

负面价格与额度效果与质量

这玩意儿连4.5的皮毛都够不上

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This shit doesn’t even scratch the surface of 4.5

负面效果与质量

你无法要求 Suno 重现其音乐库中没有的乐器(其音乐库范围本来就很有限)。使用库外的乐器会导致声音再现异常。

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On ne peut pas demander à Suno de reproduire un instrument qui n'est pas dans sa bibliothèque (laquelle n'est d'ailleurs pas extraordinairement étendue). Sortir de cette liste expose à des bizarreries de restitution.

负面易用性

另外,我的梦想是能够在曲目结束后获得真正两三秒的静音,而不是以淡出结尾听起来像鱼尾。如果有人有魔法配方——而且能用的——我感兴趣。

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Mon rêve par ailleurs, serait d'obtenir un vrai silence de deux ou trois secondes après la fin d'un morceau et non pas un fade out qui finit en queue de poisson. Si quelqu'un a la recette magique - et qui fonctionne -, je suis preneur.

负面稳定性易用性编辑与控制效果与质量工作流与集成价格与额度

很多问题,它忽略歌曲中的大多数标签,乐器缺失,还有积分价格翻倍(大幅削弱),仍然出现质量下降,还不能在没有专业订阅的情况下使用V6模型,尽管有很多积分(与以前不同,另一个大幅削弱),还有那巨大的不透明

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many things, it ignoring most of the tags in a song, instruments missing, also double price of credits (huge nerf) and still get degradation, also can't use V6 model without pro sub despite having a lot of credits (unlike before, another huge nerf), also that big lack of clarity

负面工作流与集成

这绝对可疑。他们的绝望已经显露出来了。

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It's definitely suspicious. Their desperation is showing.

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我退订是因为我实际上并没有经常使用Suno,不值得续费pro。结果我立刻开始被轰炸,收获了超过100个关注。显然是假的,因为我之前在这个平台上几乎没有获得任何互动(那也不是我追求的),但这让我觉得他们的做法极其操控性强,令人毛骨悚然。

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I unsubscribed because I wasn't really using Suno enough to justify pro and I immediately started getting bombarded, ending up with well over 100 follows. Obviously phony because I barely got any interaction on the platform before this (it's not what I'm after) but this feels incredibly manipulative and creepy on their part.

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下一个几乎没什么播放量,直到二月突然急剧增长,现在每6到8周缓慢增加约1K。

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The next one sat there with nearly no plays until February and then suddenly increased drastically and is now slowly getting another 1K every 6 to 8 weeks.

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我第一首真正有热度的歌曲立刻获得了大约5K播放,一年后缓慢增长到6K。

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My first song that really got any traction hit about 5K plays right away and then slowly went up to 6K after a year.

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Suno V.6 不再反映直到 V.5.5 为止它作为产品所能提供的东西;现在他们再来讲故事已经没用了,把钱送给一个不再有价值的产品。

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Suno V.6 non rispecchia più quanto sino alla V.5.5 era riuscito a dare come prodotto, ormai è inutile che vengano a raccontare delle favole e quindi regalare denaro proprio ad un prodotto non più valido.

负面稳定性

我有一首自己上传并发布在Suno上的歌现在正在爆火。太奇怪了,这竟然是我在5000+次生成和数百首其他已发布歌曲之后收听量/点赞量最高的歌。我今天刚退订了,打算去别的地方找找。

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I have one of my own uploaded songs that I published on suno blowing up right now. It’s weird how it’s my most listened/liked song after 5000+ generations and hundreds of other published songs. I just unsubscribed today and I am going to find somewhere else to go.

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太奇怪了,这竟然是我在5000+次生成和数百首其他已发布歌曲之后收听量/点赞量最高的歌。

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It’s weird how it’s my most listened/liked song after 5000+ generations and hundreds of other published songs.

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用Suno复制我的原始创意并让它更有趣,我大概花了5个小时。

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For Suno took me I would say 5 hours to replicate the original idea and make it more interesting.

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如果你真的喜欢某个创作,我建议找一个方法自己去复制或制作,而不是直接使用Suno生成的(因为水印和其他可能到来的问题,即使你为"许可"付了钱)

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If you really love some creation, I suggest find a way to replicate or made it by you own, and not use the Suno generated directly (for watermarks and other things that may come, even if you payed for the "licence")

负面效果与质量

如果他们不做出改变(我对此持怀疑态度,因为它之前是在非法数据上运行的),他们用来训练的新受限数据会导致非常糟糕的结果。清晰简单的提示词完全被忽略,所有内容听起来都一样。如果我生成50首歌,都是同一个想法反复出现,变化非常少。

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If they don't change something (which I doubt, since it was running on illegal data), the new restricted data they train on leads to really bad results. Clear and easy prompts get ignored completely and everything sounds the same. If I do 50 songs, it is the same idea over and over with very little variation.

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而这一切还要加上新的定价模式。

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And all this combined with the new pricing model.

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清晰简单的提示词完全被忽略,所有内容听起来都一样。如果我生成50首歌,都是同一个想法反复出现,变化非常少。

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Clear and easy prompts get ignored completely and everything sounds the same. If I do 50 songs, it is the same idea over and over with very little variation.

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清晰简单的提示词完全被忽略,所有内容听起来都一样。

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Clear and easy prompts get ignored completely and everything sounds the same.

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这里真正起作用的是AI在为创意服务,而不是取代它。它让人更容易在情感层面上与音乐和角色产生连接。

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What works here is that AI is serving the creative idea, not replacing it. It makes it so much easier to connect with both the music and the characters on an emotional level.

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我的目标是投诉让 Suno 看到并尝试改进。因为它真的很糟糕。

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My goal is to complain so Suno sees it and tries to improve. Because it's really bad.

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从第一天起,v6 就明显更差了。

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From Day 1 v6 was noticeably worse.

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我捕捉了原版封面中基本相同的时刻2024年10月5日(使用V5.0或V5.5制作),并将其与V6重制版2024年10月5日 V6重制版进行了比较(增强模式设为Normal,因为其他选项简直无法入耳)。

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I captured essentially the exact same moment in the original cover of October 5th 2024 (made with V5.0 or V5.5) and compared it to a V6 remaster October 5th 2024 V6 Remaster (Boost at Normal, as the other options were simply unlistenable).

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根据我的判断,我可以明确确定V6是倒退。

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According to my ears, I can clearly determine V6 is a regression.

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嘻哈 boom-bap 风格的曲目在 v6 上听起来非常棒…… 说真的。

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Hip-hop boom-bap tracks sounds greatly on v6... For real.

负面价格与额度效果与质量

你知道吗,但我真不敢相信你竟然认为那个你每月花30美元做出来的东西听起来比几秒钟就能免费做出来的要差得多么,它竟然算是个真正的DAW。

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You know that, But I cannot believe that you actually think that little toy you pay $30mo to make yourself something that sounds so incredibly worse than what can be made in just seconds for free is an actual DAW.

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说实话,是的,很多人确实会把任何suno涉足过的东西都当作"AI垃圾"。

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Honestly, yes, a lot of people absolutely will dismiss anything suno has touched as “AI slop”.

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也会有些人接受你所做的事情,使用现有的工具完全没有问题。

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There will also be some people who accept what you are doing, and there is nothing wrong with using what tools are available to you.

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我要做的就是使用REMASTER功能,然后把重制版再重制一遍。

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All I’ve had to do is use the REMASTER function, then Remaster the Remastered version again.

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破解了V6后半段降质的问题——成功了。 假设你有一些基本的拼接能力。 ——---- 以下是我的做法。 假设你有一首喜欢的歌,但很明显Suno V6的后半段已经降质了。

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Cracked the code for V6 second‑half degradation — worked. Assuming you have some basic stitching capabilities. ----+ Here is what I did. Suppose you have a song you liked, but it is obvious that the Suno V6 second half was degraded.

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所以我在生成的提示词末尾加了韦斯利·斯奈普斯,结果它生成了两首歌,然后我点击了随机播放按钮,它会清理你的提示词,但韦斯利·斯奈普斯还在里面,又生成了两首,你猜怎么着,这四首全比我正在评判的那些要好。

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So I just added Wesley Snipes to the very end of the prompt generated it got two songs then I hit the shuffle button that cleans up your prompts using the Wesley Snipes still in there got two more and wouldn't you know all four of them were better than the ones I was judging.

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事情变得有趣的地方就在这里。我当时在制作自己的一首真实歌曲,有几个版本我在尝试评分,因为它们都很棒,各有我喜欢的部分。

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This is where things get interesting. I was working on an actual song of mine and I had a few versions of it I was trying to score because they are all very good and had things that I liked.

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我用Suno把它变成我可以听的歌曲。能听到自己的文字以歌曲的形式呈现。我把一些发布到YouTube上,甚至还做了几个视频。这些视频是通过AI制作的,说实话烂得可笑。但不管视频有多烂,制作它们还是有点有趣的。不过音乐才是主要部分,那是我自己的歌词。我在Suno上花了很多时间和很多积分来尝试生成完美的歌曲。

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I use Suno to turn it into songs I can listen to. Being able to hear my own words in a song. I post some to YouTube, and have even made a couple videos. The videos are made through ai and are honestly laughably bad. But it’s kind of fun making the videos regardless of how bad they are. The music is the main part though, it’s my own lyrics. And I spend many hours, and many credits on Suno trying to generate the perfect song.

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说唱效果很好啊,不知道大家在抱怨什么,呜呜呜呜,以前你根本做不了音乐,现在给了你不需任何真正技术就能做的特权,人们还在抱怨,我们变成了多么傲慢的种族啊 🫪

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It works great for rap, idk what everyone is crying about, wah fucking wah, you could never make music before, now given the privelidge to be able without any real skill, yet people are still complaining, what a arrogant race have we turned into 🫪

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尽管如此,我用Suno创作的音乐——对我来说——比今天电台里的大部分垃圾要好得多。

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Despite this the music I create with Suno - to me - is way better than most of the cr@p in the radio today.

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一旦任何AI评论者听到那合成光泽和AI痕迹,他们就会把它当作劣质内容一笔勾销。旋律和歌词花了二十年创作又怎样,软件只会把你的意图扁平化成统计学上的平均值。

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The second anyone ai critical hears the synthetic sheen and AI artifacts, they’ll write it off as slop. It won't matter that the melodies and lyrics took twenty years to write, the software just flattens your intent into a statistical average.

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如果我听V6 Suno Labs新流派转盘上的示例,其中大多数听起来确实很不错。问题是为什么我们的歌曲出来要差得多(并不总是这样,这才是奇怪的地方)。这让我觉得那些Lab示例是经过微调的,并不是尤其是付费客户期望在使用专业模型时听到的真实输出。

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If i listen example the V6 Suno Labs new genre wheel samples where most of them sound really good. Question is why our songs turn out much worse (not always thats the strange part). Makes me think those Lab examples are fine tuned and not realistic output what especially paying customers excpect to hear using pro model.

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如果你做流行音乐,V6会更好。在这个圈子之外?祝你好运

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V6 is better if you make Pop. Anything outside of that bubble? Good luck

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Suno还没有发布过一个不仅仅是演示工具可以复现的模型。

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Suno is yet to release a model that’s not just a demo tool to be reproduced.

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我退了pro,在我看来v5好太多了。真难过

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I refunded my pro , v5 was so much better in my opinion. Sad

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再说一遍,我仍然相信V6比之前的引擎好得多,但也仍然同意如果你不先刺激它一下,它的创造力就很有限。

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Again, I'm convinced that V6 is still a much better engine then the former ones, but still agree it's limited in it's creativity if you don't kick it in the balls first.

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也许 Suno 不是做金属乐的最佳选择,但还有其他选择!

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Maybe Suno isn't the best for Metal, but there are other options!

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说得更清楚一点,问题是每首歌都以疯狂的吉他拨弦开头,而我无法摆脱它。我用了一个为 SUNO 制作的 GPT 来正确地组织一切。我再也得不到我想要的声音了,这太疯狂了。我已经试了好几天,翻遍了大量的 Chat gpt 历史记录想搞清楚这个问题。

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To be more clear, the issue is that every song starts with a frantic picking of the guitar and I cant get rid of it. I used a GPT made for SUNO to structure everything properly. I CAN NOT get the sound I want anymore, its crazy. Been trying for days with miles of Chat gpt history trying to figure it out.

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我来这里是想找答案,为什么我的金属乐歌曲在 v6 上现在这么垃圾。我看到我不是一个人。我有早在 v3.5 时代的好歌,以及中间每个版本保存的声音,在 v6 上听起来都很垃圾。

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I came here to search for answers to why my metals song are so trash now with v6. I see I'm not alone. I have good songs way back from v3.5 and saved voices on each version in between that sound trash on v6.

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我用全部 6 个模型试过的每一种风格都是垃圾。5.5 给我做出了我至今仍在听的不可思议的歌曲。每次我试着用 6 去做点什么,它都毫无生气、浑浊不清,听起来就像 AI 做出来的。

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Every single genre I’ve tried with all the 6 models is garbage. 5.5 made me incredible songs I still listen to. Every session I try to go in and make something with 6 it’s lifeless, muddy, and sounds like AI made it.

正面工作流与集成

独自做的话,花费的时间比人们预期的要长得多,但 suno 让这份努力变得值得,因为你可以在几秒钟内测试新的歌词。

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solo, it takes way longer than people expect, but suno makes it worth the effort since you can test a new lyric in seconds.

负面效果与质量

我从 v5 得到的比这个好。我做的任何东西都只是还行,或者更差。我只有 1 个是好的。没有任何东西达到我的标准。

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I got better out of v5 than this. Anything I make is ok, or worse. I only got 1 that is good. Nothing is up to my standards.

褒贬并存效果与质量

我实际上发现 v6 在新颖性、复杂节奏和 breakdown 方面要好得多。人声也好多了*…… *但这里有个问题……以上所有优点只有在应用了好的角色或声音时才成立 但真正令人失望的是,尽管我在 V6 上列出了所有这些改进,我的一致性体验绝对是垃圾。比如,我还没有找到一首可用的歌曲。我找到了一些非常酷的碎片。甚至能达到一首歌的一半左右。就是一些令人惊叹的东西,但没有任何东西连贯到可以被称为一首完整的歌!

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I've actually found v6 to be far better at novelty, complex rhythms, and breakdowns. The vocals are a lot better too*... * here is the catch though....all of the above only apply when you have a good persona or voice applied BUT the real bummer is for all of the improvements I listed V6 in. My experience has been absolute garbage with consistency. Like, I haven't found one usable song yet. I have found some really cool shards. And even up to around half of a song or so. Just simply amazing stuff, but nothing cohesive enough to be called a full song!

负面效果与质量

V6 在这个流派上糟透了。见鬼,对大多数流派来说都是,但这个尤其糟糕。

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V6 is HORRIBLE for this genre. Hell, for most genres, but this is particularly nasty.

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重金属、力量金属、金属……

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Heavy, Power, Metal...

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这就是为什么我放弃了用它做金属乐,暂时转向尝试其他流派。我为那些只用Suno做金属乐的人感到非常遗憾。在这种情况下取消订阅完全合理。

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This is why I gave up using it for metal and just move to experiment with other genres for the meantime. I feel very sorry for those who use Suno exclusively for metal. Cancelling their sub is completely justified in this situation.