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近 7 天的 38 条评论中,整体体验偏负面。批评最集中在「价格与额度」(12/24 条负面摘录)。好评最集中在「工作流与集成」(5/12 条正面摘录)。有用户表示结合Lovable、Codex、ChatGPT和Codemagic,已成功从Lovable发布了两款应用。有用户因Lovable生成的低效Supabase认证查询,使其仅有几百行记录的数据库性能表现却像查询几十万行。

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负面效果与质量

问题就在于此,因为Lovable之前也在我的代码中写过auth循环。另外Lovable喜欢写非常低效的Supabase查询来处理Auth相关的事情。然而,除非你使用Supabase cloud/selfhost,否则你不会知道这一点——Supabase advisor会显示它们表现有多差,但Lovable cloud没有这个功能。

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Therein lies the problem as Lovable has written an auth loop into my code before too. Also Lovable loves writing very inefficient supabase queries to do with Auth stuff. However, you won't know that unless you use Supabase cloud/selfhost - the Supabase advisor says how badly they perform but Lovable cloud doesn't have that feature.

负面价格与额度

大多数人不了解使用/托管费用,因为账户有一定的免费额度。我有一个网站,数据库只有几百行,但它的表现就像我在查询几十万行一样,都是因为那些糟糕的查询。另外,三天的测试流量每天消耗3个积分,所以发布后的任何情况都会很可怕。

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Most people don't know about the usage/hosting charges as accounts have a certain amount free. I had a site with a few hundred rows in a db but it was performing like I was querying a couple of hundred thousand all because of those bad queries. Also the three days of test only traffic was eating 3 credits a day so anything after launch was going to be horrific.

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问题就在于此,因为Lovable之前也在我的代码中写过auth循环。另外Lovable喜欢写非常低效的Supabase查询来处理Auth相关的事情。

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Therein lies the problem as Lovable has written an auth loop into my code before too. Also Lovable loves writing very inefficient supabase queries to do with Auth stuff.

负面稳定性

我有一个网站,数据库只有几百行,但它的表现就像我在查询几十万行一样,都是因为那些糟糕的查询。

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I had a site with a few hundred rows in a db but it was performing like I was querying a couple of hundred thousand all because of those bad queries.

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另外Lovable喜欢写非常低效的Supabase查询来处理Auth相关的事情。

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Also Lovable loves writing very inefficient supabase queries to do with Auth stuff.

负面价格与额度

我只是这么说,好让人们不要把 Lovable 当作一个开发平台之外的东西。这里有太多帖子,人们到了“发现真相”的阶段(成本/迁移痛苦/Lovable 服务条款/等等)。

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I'm just saying it so people don't consider Lovable as more than a development platform. Too many posts on here where they reach the find out phase (costs/migration pain/Lovable ToS/whatever).

负面价格与额度

Lovable 托管不是免费的,如果你以任何方式扩展规模,成本会把你压垮。

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Lovable hosting is not free and if you scale in any way it will wreck you in costs.

负面工作流与集成稳定性

我的建议是,对于使用 Lovable 并计划出售应用或发布付费服务的非技术人员,应立即开始了解 Lovable 在做什么,以及他们应该如何处理代码以正确托管。

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My advice is for non-technical people using lovable with the plan to sell apps or release paid services to immediately start gaining the knowledge of what lovable is doing and what they should do with the code to host it properly.

负面价格与额度

我把所有数据都保存在 BigQuery 中,避免使用 Lovable Cloud,因为在他们更改之后,积分现在消耗得很快。

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All the data I keep it in BigQuery and avoid using Lovable Cloud, because credits burn now after the changed it.

负面安全与权限

如果你使用滥用 Lovable 积分系统来绕过通常需要付费的 Chrome 扩展,这违反了 Lovable 的服务条款。你的工作区可能会被永久移除,连同工作区中所有被 remix 的项目以及源自该工作区的项目。 此外,这类 Chrome 扩展通常会跟踪你发送的每一条消息,并试图窃取 API 密钥、凭据和个人信息。如果你使用这些扩展,你的账户和工作区将会受到损害。

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If you use Chrome extensions that abuse the Lovable credit system to bypass what you usually pay for, this is breaking the terms of service of Lovable. You risk your workspace being removed indefinitely, along with all the projects that were remixed in the workspace, and that originated in the workspace. Further, Chrome extensions like these usually track every message you send and try to fish for API keys, credentials, and personal information. If you utilize extensions, your account and workspaces will be compromised.

负面价格与额度

而且任何有理智的人都不会花 799 美元请人做一个 vibe-coded 的 AI 垃圾网站。

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And no one with any sense would pay anyone $799 for a vibe-coded AI crap website.

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我还设置了 Stripe 用于收款,所以我计划前期收费 799 美元,外加每月 99 美元的“运营”网站费用,并包含免费迭代。

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I also setup stripe for payments so I plan to have an upfront cost of $799 with a $99 monthly fee for "running" the website along with free iterations.

负面稳定性

不要把它托管在 Lovable 上!!!这是你需要开始学习更多关于 Web 开发的地方。尤其是关于如何正确托管网站。如果流量大或资源使用多,Lovable 会让你陷入严重的困境。你承受不起付费网站宕机。最好的做法是把它托管在他们现有的平台上,或者找一个合适的虚拟主机、VPS 或云服务让他们托管,不要自己承担托管责任。

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DON'T host it on lovable!!! This is where you need to start learning more about web development. Especially around properly hosting websites. Lovable will get you in some serious jams if there's high traffic or resources used. You can't afford for a paid site to go down. Best thing to do is host it on their current platform or find a proper web host or vps or cloud for them to host on and don't take on hosting responsibility.

负面价格与额度

虽然有更好的托管平台可以使用(例如Vercel),而不是Lovable,因为它们针对不同的客户进行了优化

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although there are better hosting platforms to use (Vercel for example) than Lovable since they are optimizing toward different customers

负面工作流与集成

但处理supabase端就很烦人了。理清生成的rls策略并让所有edge functions在自己的环境中干净利落地运行,通常需要最多的手动清理工作。

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but dealing with the supabase side is where it gets annoying. untangling generated rls policies and getting all the edge functions running cleanly in your own environment usually takes the most manual cleanup.

负面编辑与控制

零控制

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zero control

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事实上,我已经不再考虑使用Lovable或任何类似Lovable的工具进行开发,因为它们实际上是在以非常高的加价转售token。 Claude code/Codex几乎什么都能做,那为什么还要花高价通过同样的模型用Lovable来完成任务,而且毫无控制权呢?

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As a matter of fact, I have stopped considering Lovable or any Lovable like tools for development because they are effectively re-selling tokens at a very high markup. Claude code/Codex can do just anything so why pay for Lovable to get something done through the same models at a very high prices and zero control?

负面价格与额度

它们实际上是在以非常高的加价转售token

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they are effectively re-selling tokens at a very high markup

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事实上,我已经不再考虑使用Lovable或任何类似Lovable的工具进行开发,因为它们实际上是在以非常高的加价转售token。

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As a matter of fact, I have stopped considering Lovable or any Lovable like tools for development because they are effectively re-selling tokens at a very high markup.

负面稳定性

但它不是100%有效。如果你用chatgpt做了修改然后发布,但之后如果再用lovable修改,就会破坏设计或代码。

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But its not 100% working. If you do changes with chatgpt and then publish but after that if you changes with lovable it will break the design or code.

负面稳定性

也很容易一开始就采用一种让未来改动变得非常困难的架构。当你查看代码时,到处都是重复的逻辑,所以构建得越久,情况就越糟。

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It's also really easy to start with an architecture that makes future changes really hard. When you look at the code there's duplicated logic everywhere so the longer you build the worse it gets.

负面价格与额度

这完全是一个隐藏的积分消耗黑洞,因为他们透明度糟糕透顶

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It’s all a hidden credit sink as the transparency from them is gross

负面价格与额度

lovable 只是让你以更高的价格使用更便宜的模型,并且作为消费者,它给你提供的价值要少得多。

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lovable is just giving you access to cheaper models for a higher price and providing alot less value to you as a consumer

负面效果与质量

什么垃圾,停止使用lovable,该死的Claude code现在通过网络、桌面或CLI都一样甚至更好,而且能力更强

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Que merda parem de usar lovable , porra o Claude code agora está igual e melhor via web via desktop ou via cli e com habilidades superiores

负面稳定性

每次用户浏览网站时,总是有这个问题或那个问题。几乎就像每修复一个bug或问题,就会产生另一个问题。

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Every time a user goes through the site, it's this problem or that problem. Almost like for every bug or problem that is fixed, another one is created.

负面效果与质量

它适合小规模项目,但你不应该把它用于大规模项目。

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it's good for small scale projects, but you shouldn't use it for large scale projects.

负面价格与额度

是的,现在似乎已经涨到3个积分了。我会在接下来几个月内退出,还是挺有趣的。

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Yup, it now seems to have gone X 3 credits. I'm bowing out over next few months, it's been fun.

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之前,如果你让Lovable删除一段普通文本,它最多会花费0.6个积分。 现在,删除一段普通文本最少需要2.10个积分。

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Previously, if you asked Lovable to delete a normal text, it'd spend maximum 0.6 credits to do that. Now, it costs minimum 2.10 credits to delete a normal text.

负面价格与额度

取消 Lovable 订阅帮助很大

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canceling the Lovable sub helped a lot

负面易用性

从来不明白为什么需要像 lovable 这样的东西,我直接用 Claude code 或 antigravity 就能构建我需要的东西,然后托管在 vercel 或类似平台上。

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Never understood the need for something like lovable when I can just use Claude code or antigravity to build what I need and host it on vercel or something similar.

负面易用性

我最初开始做Travi,是在Lovable上做的,很快就遇到了功能方面的瓶颈

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I first started Travi, I did it on Lovable, quickly hit a wall in terms of functionality

负面工作流与集成

两者都只需一小时修复,而且两者在可爱的编辑器内部都是不可见的。

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both are an hour to fix, and both are invisible from inside the lovable editor.

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那个没人列出但应该列出的:没有隐私政策。

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the one nobody lists but should: no privacy policy.

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可怕的技术问题是 supabase 表可以用公共匿名密钥读取,在同一批次中发现了 6 个这样的问题。

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the scary technical one is supabase tables readable with the public anon key, found 6 of those across the same batch.

负面安全与权限

可怕的技术问题是 supabase 表可以用公共匿名密钥读取,在同一批次中发现了 6 个这样的问题。两者都只需一小时修复,而且两者在可爱的编辑器内部都是不可见的。

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the scary technical one is supabase tables readable with the public anon key, found 6 of those across the same batch. both are an hour to fix, and both are invisible from inside the lovable editor.

负面稳定性价格与额度

有时它仅仅为了读取文件就用掉了所有每日令牌……甚至在做出任何更改之前

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sometimes it uses all daily tokens just to even read file … before even making any changes

负面安全与权限

从我的角度来看,看到另一个客户的回复是一个非常非常严重的安全问题

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Getting another customer's response is a very very serious security issue from my point of view